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Negotiating with Cities which don't allow billboards

Posted by jgale16 
Negotiating with Cities which don't allow billboards
July 08, 2011 02:00PM
Frank,

I'm running into situations in southern CA where I have landowners with valuable freeway-frontage property who want a billboard, have signed a land-lease with me, but where the city will not allow for the construction of new billboards. Any out of the box suggestions for getting things thru City hall. What about a revenue share with the city? Free city advertising (Welcome to .....) on the sign?

John Gale
Re: Negotiating with Cities which don't allow billboards
July 08, 2011 04:38PM
John,

I know exactly what you are talking about, and have pulled it off many times. Here's the key -- you've got to negotiate it behind the scenes, and only go to the council once everyone is in agreement and will vote "yes". That's where most people screw up. They go to the council meeting and plead their case and try to negotiate it in public. You should never negotiate anything in public -- you'll never win. But in private, you can cut deals with the various councilmen to appease their personal concerns, and then the public meeting is merely a formality.

It took me a few years to learn this lesson. I have never won a case in which I try to negotiate it in public. I have won 50% of those negotiated in private.
Re: Negotiating with Cities which don't allow billboards
July 11, 2011 03:04PM
Frank,

Thanks for the advice. On a related note, did you ever try the revenue sharing free advertising idea? What % of revenue did you offer?

John
Re: Negotiating with Cities which don't allow billboards
August 02, 2011 11:06AM
Frank,
What deals behind the scenes did you negotiate? Any specific perks or ideas that would catch councils?
Thanks

Ralph
Re: Negotiating with Cities which don't allow billboards
August 03, 2011 08:32AM
Ralph,

My most successful sales pitch was to go to a city and offer them a sign that said "Welcome to the City of _____" in exchange for the variance to build a billboard or two. I did this in Fate, Texas and scored three structures and Midlothian, Texas and scored one structure. You would be amazed how workable the city is if the trade is their own promotional sign.

The key to this type of negotiation is that is HAS to be behind the scenes -- never at a public hearing or P&Z case. City councils already have made up their minds oon their vote before they ever show up at P&Z and council meetings, so you have to sell them on the idea before they ever show up.
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